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Continue to ChatI was in government for 13 years and in that time only once met the head of the German security services, and that was because he was an old friend. Otherwise, I carefully avoided having anything to do with these people. They are unavoidable but not really necessary. - Helmut Schmidt from https://whatsmyquote.com/quote/i-was-in-government-for-13-years-and-in-that-time-only-once-met-the-head-of-the-german-security-services-and